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  1. Last week, I posed the question-- who was WWE's poster girl? I did so to parlay into this larger discussion, about the hypothetical (and probable?) scenario in which a headlining match for a WrestleMania would feature Ronda Rousey competing for either of WWE's women's championships. With this clearly being a game-changing step in a long (long) march towards something beyond a 'revolution' and more representative of finite equality fiscally and creatively between the WWE's women's division and its male counterpart, Ronda Rousey needs an apt dance partner. Someone who can complete an iconic match-up that would rival the likes of Hogan vs. Rock, Stone Cold vs. HBK and The Rock vs. John Cena. A woman who will carry the WWE's flag on her back as she goes in to potentially defend or take back the crown jewel of her respective women's division. So, the question is: who? Base your criteria of off: PR Savvy - Is she capable of marketing the match and herself as the character to beat Ronda Rousey, let alone in the main of WrestleMania? Visibility and Previous Relevance - What has she done lately? Is it realistic that she would be able to not only be primed, but accepted in the eyes of the fans as someone who's going to hold this distinct honor that the legendary females of the past couldn't have dreamed of doing in their prime? Accomplishments and Legitimacy - What does she bring to the table in the tale of the tape comparison? Will she be marketed as an underdog or as a major foil? Is her past history in the WWE sustainable enough to hold on to Ronda's massive, industry shifting success in the UFC that will largely be factored into the promotion of the match? End Game - Ronda is already a mainstream star athlete, so what is the end game of this person being her opponent in the main event of WrestleMania? Is she the star WWE wants to shine bright even after Ronda has moved on from wrestling?
  2. Ember Moon & Charlotte Flair are the first two competitors in the match, so what girls do you think will make up the rest of the match? 
  3. Is Charlotte *really* the GOAT?

    I mean, she had me fooled! After an iconic entrance and performance in a career-defining win against Asuka at WrestleMania 34, dirt sheets went rampant in speculating that Charlotte Flair's run as the SmackDown Women's Champion would lead her to an even higher pinnacle-- being one half of the first-ever women's main event in WrestleMania history against Ronda Rousey at WrestleMania 35 in New Jersey. While WrestleMania is still a year away, New Jersey got a taste of what the potential headliner had to offer at WWE Backlash; and the sample wasn't enough to sell the sandwich. Charlotte's lack of emotion and interest could be told before the bell even rang for her match against Carmella for the SmackDown Women's Championship-- Charlotte having lost the title only two days after the huge win due to a cash-in (which seemed understandable and apropo; but perhaps this was not). Carmella, no ring general by any means, was to go over clean against Charlotte. No IIconics interference, no sign of Asuka anywhere; just Charlotte and Carmella battling in a Bella Twin vs. Kelly Kelly 2011 level of resthold/roll-up match (the match being produced by nefarious misogynist Johnny Ace was the icing atop the cake, it seems). As unfortunate and perhaps understandable it was for fans of Charlotte, the problem lies in that this isn't the first time Charlotte has put out trash. In fact, it seems she puts out trash more frequently than she does treasure. When she's given the big spotlight and a focus at the biggest stages, she shows out. However, when she needs to go through the motions and get to next week, it's exactly what she does; something male counterparts who she'd like to be held in the same regards to such as Seth Rollins and AJ Styles tend not to do. They have compelling matches on week-to-week TV, and whether it be limitations or simply lack of interest in proving herself, Charlotte does not do that. Which begs the question, why is she heralded as the GOAT? Certainly those aren't qualities becoming of someone considered to be the greatest of their generation. And if not Charlotte, hew is it?  
  4.   https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/wrestling/wwe-superstars-salaries-earnings-revealed-12038441.amp
  5.     Is Carmella actually cashing in this week?  
  6. Charlotte Injured?

    I'm blaming this on Dana Brooke.
  7. As of today, Charlotte's 6 total reigns in WWE (NXT, Diva's, Raw & Smackdown Women's) tally 828 days which is exactly the same amount of day's that spanned Trish's 7 reigns. I just thought this was interesting. They have INVESTED in this girl (I'm not mad, love me some Charlotte) but it's something to see these records that have stood for a decade + start to fall. For statistics sake, Alexa's four reigns total 430 days. That's more days in total than Lita, Beth Phoenix, Melina, Ivory and Mickie James! And since we know she's holding it until Mania, her 442 total will put her one day ahead of Sensational Sherri and put her 6th of all time for longevity of reigns.   The new girls are coming for the records, how do you feel about it?       Also, I'm aware that Trish doesn't hold the record for most days but Lilian can begone with her 10,000 day mess (iam lowkey here for Charlotte erasing Moolah's legacy tbh )
  8. Worst reign of terror?

    Long title reigns can really help build the prestige and honor one receives after finally dethroning a champion. However, for a linear WWE women's division in which multi-layered storylines and consistently protected protagonists are few and far in between, these attempts to build up a title through a champion are questionable in their effectiveness.  While there have been plenty of multi-month runs with women's championships in the past decade, I've narrowed it down to the five that are the most referenced and relevant in the current landscape of the WWE's women's division. Now, it's up to you all to decide which one was the worst. The candidates: Charlotte Flair as WWE Divas, and subsequently WWE Women's Champion, September 20th, 2015 to July 25th, 2016 Two years ago, the wheels were set into place. With Charlotte Flair fresh off of defeating the longest reigning Divas Champion in history, Nikki Bella (we'll get to her) in the fall, WWE looked to capitalize on the extended focus on their Divas division by dropping the term 'Diva' altogether at WrestleMania 32 and debuting a new iteration of the WWE Women's Championship. Charlotte would defeat her fellow Horsewomen Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks at the event in the originally billed Divas Championship match to become the new Women's Championship, spending a whopping 309 consecutive days as the only female champion in the WWE (this is not officially recognized, as falls between two separate championships and already surpassed Bella's previously established record of 301 days atop the division). Though Charlotte faced a plethora of opponents ranging from rematches with Bella, Paige, Becky Lynch and Natalya before finally falling to Banks in the summer, at the time, Charlotte felt too forced. After failing to get over as a babyface while rivaling her much more popular heel adversaries, Charlotte was made into heel by the beginning of 2016 and became accompanied by her legendary father, Ric Flair. Flair was dropped by the spring, and Charlotte's heater became Dana Brooke, freshly called up with little to no real experience as her senior, Emma, had fallen to a back injury. While the two were entertaining, much hotter and more promising acts such as Becky Lynch, Naomi and Sasha Banks were kept on the backburner until Flair's defeat at the introduction of the brand split, which would mean more opportunities for these stars as well as the introduction of a new women's championship. Asuka as the NXT Women's Champion, April 1st, 2016 to August 24th, 2017 Following easily one of the best matches in NXT and recent history in Bayley and Sasha Banks' clash at NXT Takeover: Brooklyn, Bayley's reign as champion that emerged following that match would be ended by the next generation of NXT match-of-the-night generator; Asuka. A charismatic joshi star whose appeal transcended language barriers (poor Alexa Bliss), following her feud with Emma and Dana Brooke, the undefeated Asuka would vanquish Bayley at NXT Takeover: Dallas and become the new NXT Women's Champion. What was to follow was the longest reign in NXT history, male or female, and the only of these reigns to surpass a calendar year-- five hundred and ten days as the only female champion in NXT, all while also remaining undefeated in singles competition. During this time, just about every major female act in NXT got a shot and lost to Asuka. From Bayley, Ember Moon, the Iconic Duo, Nikki Cross, Ruby Riott and even a returning Mickie James, no one could feasibly defeat Asuka, something fans saw as a detriment to the credibility of these women going forward when Asuka finally left the division to join the main roster, all while still retaining the undefeated streak that remains to this day. One that apparently extends to mixed tag team matches where Asuka is not even competing, yet her streak is on the line. *sigh* Nikki Bella as the WWE Divas Champion, November 23rd, 2014 to September 20th, 2015 We remember it like it was yesterday. Following dirty laundry, appearances on Jerry Springer, Daniel Bryan cosplays and this next entry wishing her twin sister had died in the womb, the unbelievable happened-- The Bellas reconciled. With a shocking kiss to the lips of AJ Lee, Brie Bella ensured that Nikki Bella would easily squash the once undefeatable Lee to capture her second Divas Championship (the first one being only a week long before the Bellas originally departed from WWE). With a year of Total Divas momentum behind her and being the first cast member to win WWE's sole women's championship at the time, Nikki Bella seemed bigger than ever before and she was ready to take on all comers for the Divas Championship. It just didn't seem like management thought the same. Following AJ Lee's second hiatus and Paige's face turn, The Bellas would feud with Paige for the better part of SEVEN MONTHS for the Divas Championship. Other women served as interchangeable and quite literally background characters for The Bellas' extended feud with Paige that lasted beyond the culmination of the Fab Four's 2014 with a tag team match at WrestleMania, which would be AJ's final outing at the Show of Shows. Though one exception to the rule would be Naomi, whose sudden heel turn would suddenly turn the villainous Bellas into babyfaces for, well, a month while Paige finished shooting a movie. While Nikki Bella would ultimately surpass her rival AJ's reign as Divas Champion by the end before falling to Charlotte and the onset of the "Divas Revolution", her reign with the championship was another extension of a championship, while ridiculed by fans, was made prestigious through the passion and determination of its holder. Sort of like this championship reign... AJ Lee as Divas Champion, June 16th, 2013 to April 7th, 2014 Perhaps this reign was the one that started them all. In June 2013, in what would become home turf for a female rising star intertwined with Chicago native, CM Punk, AJ Lee would capture her first championship in WWE by defeating Kaitlyn for the Divas Championship in a widely-acclaimed match. What was more controversial afterward, however, was the length of the championship campaign AJ would hold after that historic encounter. For 295 days, AJ Lee ruled atop the then still re-developing Divas division, aided by the return of the Bella Twins, the in-ring debuts of the Funkadactyls and the resurgence of Natalya as Total Divas, a reality show focused solely on select women within the WWE, was introduced into the fray. After the departures of division mainstays such as Kelly Kelly, Beth Phoenix, Eve Torres and Michelle McCool in the past two years, the Divas division had faced a much understandable identity crisis in 2012-- the year when AJ would concurrently become the biggest female star, all without the championship. It was when she did finally fixate her attention on the title over main event Superstars is when the Divas Championship felt more coveted than ever before. Forever hotly contested on the servers of Heartbreakers.me, with fans debating as to whether it'd be the up-and-coming Naomi or the now bigger than ever before Bella Twins as to who would dethrone AJ, a plot twist of the century came after AJ had literally defeated every woman in the division at WrestleMania 30, when Paige would make her main roster debut on the RAW after WrestleMania and defeat AJ for the Divas Championship, in a moment even more iconic than when AJ first netted the butterfly title. And though the beginning and ends of this story are memorable, the middle part is up for contention. Constantly taking losses to her challengers before always defeating them on pay-per-view, as well as the feud between AJ and Total Divas lasting the entirety of her reign, it was difficult for acts unaffiliated with either party to get a head start. Veteran, but capable ring performers were left out of the narrative, while even Kaitlyn, who AJ had defeated for the championship, became an afterthought before quietly retiring months after. While the reign did well for the prestige of the Divas Championship, it may remain contested until the end-of-time as to whether it truly benefited the concurrent women of the division or not. Alexa Bliss as Raw Women's Champion between two non-consecutive reigns, April 30th, 2017 to August 20th, 2017 and August 28th, 2017 to the present Yep. With the exception of a mere eight days that comprise Sasha Banks' fourth reign as the Raw Women's Champion, Alexa Bliss has held the red, white and gold for a combined total of 313 days. With twenty days until WrestleMania 30 where Bliss is currently penned to defend the championship against rival Nia Jax, a final total of 333 combined days (which won't be recognized by WWE, due to again, an eight days' difference ) is likely for Little Miss Bliss. But that's if she loses. Despite coming in hot from SmackDown's efficient handling of her character, a sassy, quipping primadonna that'd obviously studied out of Trish Stratus' heel playbook, the only thing this pint-sized pay-per-view staple is serving Trish in is in the long ass reign department. Unlike Trish and unlike the rest of the entries on this list, Bliss has been juxtaposed by another women's championship throughout the entirety of her run on Raw, with SmackDown Live's women taking some attention and sting away with the first (two) ever Women's Money in the Bank Ladder Match(es) and three separate reigns with the SmackDown Women's Championship in the past calendar year, from Naomi, to Natalya and now to Charlotte Flair. Unlike the other entries, the point of contention isn't in other women's opportunities being denied (Women's Royal Rumble, Women's Elimination Chamber). It's that Alexa Bliss isn't the main character in her own story anymore. Acts such as the previously mentioned Asuka, Jax and Banks have all withheld stronger support and interest from the crowd in their respective endeavors, and an honorable mention to the brief return of Paige that introduced Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose onto the roster. With at least four viable acts on Raw in addition to the unsung ballads of Mickie James and Bayley who received staggering losses of crowd support following how handily Bliss would defeat them in their respective feuds, the question lies as to why these women are all over the place position-wise where Alexa quietly and comfortably took a backseat towards the end of last year while these women were at the top of their game. Though the light at the end of the tunnel seems to be emerging, it's been a cold, dark and scary ride through, to say the least. So, which of these infamous reigns do you believe was the most unbearable for you or the most detrimental to their contemporary division?
  9. Women Main Eventing Major Shows

    Smackdown   Raw Impact   Pay-Per-View STEPHANIE McMAHON - 11 Stephanie McMahon vs. Jacqueline - Smackdown March 30, 2000 Stephanie McMahon, Triple H & Kurt Angle vs. Lita & The Dudley Boyz - Smackdown August 3, 2000 Stephanie McMahon vs. Lita - Raw August 21, 2000 Stephanie McMahon & Kurt Angle vs. Lita & The Rock  - Smackdown August 24, 2000 Stephanie McMahon & Triple H vs. Trish Stratus & Kurt Angle  - Raw January 22, 2001 Stephanie McMahon, Triple H & Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Team Xtreme - Raw, April 9 2001 Stephanie McMahon & Test vs. The Rock - Raw September 10, 2001 Stephanie McMahon vs. Triple H vs. Chris Jericho - Raw March 25, 2002 Stephanie McMahon & Zach Gowen vs. The Big Show - Smackdown July 3, 2003 Stephanie McMahon vs. A-Train - Smackdown August 14, 2003 Stephanie McMahon vs. Brock Lesnar - Smackdown September 11, 2003 LITA - 9 Lita & The Rock vs. Trish Stratus & Triple H - Raw July 31, 2000 Lita & The Dudley Boyz vs. Stephanie McMahon, Triple H & Kurt Angle - Smackdown August 3, 2000 Lita vs. Stephanie McMahon - Raw August 21, 2000 Lita & The Rock vs. Stephanie McMahon & Kurt Angle - Smackdown August 24, 2000 Team Xtreme vs. Stephanie McMahon, Triple H & Stone Cold Steve Austin - Raw, April 9 2001 Lita vs. Trish Stratus - Raw December 6, 2004 Lita & Edge vs. Maria & John Cena - Raw February 6, 2006 Lita, Edge & Randy Orton vs. Trish Stratus, Carlito & John Cena - Raw September 4, 2006 Lita vs. John Cena - Raw September 25, 2006 CHARLOTTE - 7 Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks  - Raw October 3, 2016 Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks  - Hell in a Cell 2016 (first ever women's Hell in a Cell Match) Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks  - Raw November 28, 2016 (Falls Count Anywhere Match) Charlotte vs. Bayley - Raw February 13, 2017 Charlotte vs. Naomi - Smackdown April 24, 2017 Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Natalya vs. Tamina - Smackdown June 27, 2017 (Money in the Bank Ladder Match) Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Naomi vs. Tamina - Smackdown September 19, 2017 CHYNA - 6 D-X vs. The Corporation - Raw January 11, 1999 Chyna & Billy Gunn vs. The Rock - Raw July 16, 1999 Chyna vs. Triple H vs. The Undertaker - Raw August 9, 1999 Chyna & Triple H vs. Shane McMahon & Vince McMahon - Raw September 20, 1999 Chyna, The Rock & Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge, Christian & Chris Benoit - Smackdown July 6, 2000 Chyna, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Billy Gunn & The Rock vs. The Radicalz - Raw November 13, 2000 SASHA BANKS - 6 Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte - Raw October 3, 2016 Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte - Hell in a Cell 2016 (first ever women's Hell in a Cell Match) Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte - Raw November 28, 2016 (Falls Count Anywhere Match) Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax vs. Mickie James vs. Dana Brooke vs. Emma vs. Bayley - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) Sasha Banks vs. Alexa Bliss - Raw August 28, 2017 Sasha Banks, Bayley & Mickie James vs. Paige, Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville - Raw December 18, 2017 TRISH STRATUS - 6 Trish Stratus & Triple H vs. Lita & The Rock - Raw July 31, 2000 Trish Stratus & Kurt Angle vs. Stephanie McMahon & Triple H - Raw January 22, 2001 Trish Stratus & The Rock vs. Kurt Angle & Vince McMahon - Raw December 3, 2001 Trish Stratus vs. Lita - Raw December 6, 2004 Trish Stratus, John Cena & Carlito vs. Lita, Edge & Randy Orton - Raw September 4, 2006 Trish Stratus & John Cena vs. Beth Phoenix & Santino Marella - Raw December 22, 2008 GAIL KIM - 4 Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong - Impact January 10, 2008 Gail Kim vs. Mickie James - Impact December 29, 2011 Gail Kim vs. Havok - Impact October 1, 2014 Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong - Impact October 28, 2015 MICKIE JAMES - 4 Mickie James vs. Tara - Impact December 9, 2010 (Steel Cage Match) Mickie James vs. Gail Kim - Impact December 29, 2011 Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax vs. Dana Brooke vs. Emma vs. Bayley - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) Mickie James, Bayley & Sasha Banks vs. Paige, Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville - Raw December 18, 2017 AJ LEE - 3 AJ Lee & CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan & Kane - Raw June 11, 2012 AJ Lee & CM Punk vs. Eve Torres & Daniel Bryan - Raw July 9, 2012 AJ Lee & Dolph Ziggler vs. Vickie Guerrero & John Cena - Raw December 17, 2012 BAYLEY - 3 Bayley vs. Charlotte - Raw February 13, 2017 Bayley vs. Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax vs. Dana Brooke vs. Emma - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) Bayley, Mickie James & Sasha Banks vs. Paige, Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville - Raw December 18, 2017 BECKY LYNCH - 3 Becky Lynch vs. Alexa Bliss - Smackdown January 18, 2017 (Steel Cage Match) Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Charlotte vs. Natalya vs. Tamina - Smackdown June 27, 2017 (Money in the Bank Ladder Match) Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte vs. Naomi vs. Tamina - Smackdown September 19, 2017 ROSEMARY - 3 Rosemary vs. Jade - Impact December 1, 2016 (Steel Cage Match) Rosemary vs. Taya Valkyrie - Impact October 19, 2017 Rosemary vs. Laurel Van Ness - Impact December 14, 2017 ALEXA BLISS - 2 Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch - Smackdown January 18, 2017 (Steel Cage Match) Alexa Bliss vs. Sasha Banks - Raw August 28, 2017 AWESOME KONG/KHARMA - 2 Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim - Impact January 10, 2008 Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim - Impact October 28, 2015 KELLY KELLY - 2 Kelly Kelly & Edge vs. Dolph Ziggler, Michelle McCool & Layla - Smackdown February 2, 2011 Kelly Kelly & Edge vs. Drew McIntyre & Vickie Guerrero - Smackdown February 25, 2011 NAOMI - 2 Naomi vs. Charlotte - Smackdown April 24, 2017 Naomi vs. Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Tamina - Smackdown September 19, 2017 TAMINA - 2 Tamina vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Charlotte vs. Natalya - Smackdown June 27, 2017 (Money in the Bank Ladder Match) Tamina vs. Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Naomi - Smackdown September 19, 2017 VICKIE GUERRERO - 2 Vickie Guerrero &  Drew McIntyre vs. Kelly Kelly & Edge - Smackdown February 25, 2011 Vickie Guerrero & John Cena vs. AJ Lee & Dolph Ziggler - Raw December 17, 2012 BETH PHOENIX - 1 Beth Phoenix & Santino Marella vs. Trish Stratus & John Cena - Raw December 22, 2008 CANDICE MICHELLE - 1 Candice Michelle & John Cena vs. Umaga, Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch - Raw July 23, 2007  CARMELLA - 1 Carmella vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte vs. Natalya vs. Tamina - Smackdown June 27, 2017 (Money in the Bank Ladder Match) DANA BROOKE - 1 Dana Brooke vs. Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax vs. Emma vs. Bayley - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) EMMA - 1 Emma vs. Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Nia Jax vs. Dana Brooke vs.  Bayley - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) EVE TORRES - 1 Eve Torres & Daniel Bryan vs. AJ Lee & CM Punk - Raw July 9, 2012 HAVOK - 1 Havok vs. Gail Kim - Impact October 1, 2014 JACQUELINE - 1 Jacqueline vs. Stephanie McMahon - Smackdown March 30, 2000 JADE - 1 Jade vs. Rosemary - Impact December 1, 2016 (Steel Cage Match) LAYLA - 1 Layla, Michelle McCool & Dolph Ziggler vs. Kelly Kelly & Edge  - Smackdown February 2, 2011 LAUREL VAN NESS - 1 Laurel Van Ness vs. Rosemary - Impact December 14, 2017 MANDY ROSE - 1 Mandy Rose, Paige & Sonya Deville vs. Bayley, Mickie James & Sasha Banks - Raw December 18, 2017 MARIA - 1 Maria & John Cena vs. Lita & Edge - Raw February 6, 2006 MICHELLE McCOOL - 1 Michelle McCool, Layla & Dolph Ziggler vs. Kelly Kelly & Edge  - Smackdown February 2, 2011 NATALYA - 1 Natalya vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Charlotte vs. Tamina - Smackdown June 27, 2017 (Money in the Bank Ladder Match) NIA JAX - 1 Nia Jax vs. Mickie James vs. Sasha Banks vs. Dana Brooke vs. Emma vs. Bayley - Raw June 26, 2017 (Gauntlet Match) PAIGE - 1 Paige, Mandy Rose & Sonya Deville vs. Bayley, Mickie James & Sasha Banks - Raw December 18, 2017 SONYA DEVILLE - 1 Sonya Deville, Mandy Rose & Paige vs. Bayley, Mickie James & Sasha Banks - Raw December 18, 2017 VICTORIA/TARA - 1 Tara vs. Mickie James - Impact September 12, 2010 (Steel Cage Match) TARA VALKYRIE - 1 Taya Valkyrie vs. Rosemary - Impact October 19, 2017
  10. Expanding on their TV special counting down the top 25 moments in Raw History, WWE.com added a photo gallery of more Raw moments counting down from 100, managing to encompass a few moments starring women. Listed below are said moments along with their ranking:   If you'd like to flick through the photo gallery and see the full countdown, check it out here and sound off below!
  11. SD Women's Match * SmackDown Women's Champion Charlotte Flair defeated Ruby Riott Raw Women's Match * Paige, Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose defeated Mickie James, Sasha Banks and Bayley source
  12.   source: Podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/user/agendapodcast/timeline-of-the-revolution Podcast is 4 hours long ...so if anybody wants to listen to it to see if any other dirt is in there
  13. Steel Cage match: Charlotte defends Smackdown Women's Championship against Natalya      
  14.   Seems like James Ellsworth has been taking a beating from the entire SD women’s division at live events during the week. The women have been hitting him with a series of classic finishers including Stone Cold’s Stunner, The Bella Buster, Kane’s Chokeslam, Hulk Hogan’s Leg Drop and Alicia Fox’s Scissor Kick (no one else’s...) (The girls do different finishers in each video.)        
  15. Source : http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0921/632389/backstage-update-on-wwe-doing-horsewomen-vs-horsewomen/ I guess a joint PPV would make the most sense as i cant see WWE wanting all there horsewomen on one brand as it would weaken one division an make the other stronger if they where
  16. It's been a little stagnant around here so I wanted to see if this would be a discussion that could get everyone talking.  The Horsewomen have been the faces of the WWE's women's revolution (evolution) since they started picking up steam while in Nxt. As a result of media attention and fan buzz that the womens division hadn't seen in years 3/4 of the group made their debut in July 2015. Charlotte was the first to pick up steam and quickly became the divas champion and reigned over the division as the queen. This would follow as the transition from the divas division to the women's division Charlotte would once again be trusted as the face of the brand. Charlotte has achieved a career with many memorable matches and has collected a total of 4 women's championship reigns along with 1 reign as divas champion.  Sasha would soon find her own success and become the women's champion though her journey hasn't been as successful. She is a 4 time raw women's champion and despite being able to deliver a great match with any opponent the company has yet to trust her with a lengthy reign.  Becky has found moderate success as the first Smackdown live women's champion. The reign was plagued by an unknown injury and came at a time where the division was being built up from the ground. It wasn't forgettable by any means but it lacked one more story to truly make it memorable. She has floundered since 2017 started and hasn't been used much as a focus despite her popularity.  Bayley looked to have the brightest future and was seen as the John Cena of the women's division. She is a one time women's champion and has been on the main roster for the shortest amount of time. Yet has received fan backlash in the form of boos the hugger has struggled to connect to a new audience unlike her contemporaries.  Looking at the career path of each women Charlotte is the only true star who truly benefitted from the attention. Sasha Banks also holds some weight to her name while Becky and Bayley are just there. While the talent takes some responsibility booking has definitely damaged the current career of Becky and Bayley. The four horsewomen have become just another gimmick the company can use as a marketing tool.  
  17. Though the build up was questionable and the ppv tag line wasn't necessary Hell in a cell 2016 was a landmark event for women of the WWE. 2016 shifted away from "divas" and the company began to focus on a more positive movement for the women and a revolution emerged. Women began to compete in stipulations matches typically reserved for the men and main eventing Raw or Smackdown became something normal and not just a diva stans dream rpg. The Wwe took the game to another level when it was revealed Sasha and Charlotte would be the main event of a Wwe ppv inside of the deadly structure for the first time in history. Now coming up on a year since then while the women have continued to break many first in stipulations and with many having the goal to main even Wrestlemania itself the Wwe has failed to give the women the trust to even headline a C level ppv.  Do you see the Wwe giving the women more opportunities to headline a ppv event or was it just a one time deal for a public relations fairytale? 
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